Questions and Answers
Questions and Answers
Questions and Answers
I
would like to know how one can reach the spiritual
heart during meditation.
The spiritual heart is located right in the centre
of the chest. You can feel the spiritual heart
when you are aspiring intensely, and you can also
see it with the third eye. If you find it difficult
to meditate on the spiritual heart, you can concentrate
on the physical heart in the chest. But after
you meditate there for a few months or for a year,
you will feel that inside the ordinary human heart
is the divine heart, and inside the divine heart
is the soul. When you feel this, you will start
meditating on the spiritual heart.
To reach the spiritual heart you have to feel
that you do not have a mind, you do not have arms,
you do not have legs, you have only the heart.
Then you have to feel that you do not have the
heart, but that you are the heart. When you can
feel that you are the heart and nothing else,
then easily you will be able to reach your spiritual
heart during your meditation.
I find it very difficult to leave
the mind and enter into the heart. What should
I do?
Just throw the mind and all its possessions into
the heart. You may think, "If I throw away
my mind, then how can I exist? I will become an
idiot." But I tell you, the mind that you
use to converse with people, the mind that you
use to acquire information, the mind that you
use for ordinary earthly activities, cannot take
you even an inch toward God-realisation. It is
lame. It is blind. It is deaf.
Try to feel that your whole existence, from the
soles of your feet to the crown of your head,
is the soul. Soulfully repeat, "I am the
soul, I am the soul." If you can soulfully
repeat this for five minutes, then the resistance
of the physical mind will go away and only the
soul will exist for you. Once you live in the
soul and bring the soul's light forward, then
this light will bring the physical mind to the
higher regions or it will bring down peace from
above. In either case, the physical mind as you
know it will be transformed, and you will not
have any more problems.
When I am meditating sometimes I have
trouble distinguishing whether I really feel my
heart or whether it is my mind that I am experiencing.
If it is really your heart, then you will get
a sense of pure satisfaction. If it is the mind,
you may get satisfaction, but immediately you
will also get doubt. Your experience will be attacked
by other thoughts: "I am so bad, so impure,
so ignorant. This morning I told a lie and yesterday
I did something else that was bad, so how can
I have this kind of satisfaction?" When that
kind of idea comes, you will know that your experience
was from the mind.
When you get an experience from the mind, you
may temporarily feel very happy. But the joy will
not remain, because you will not be able to establish
your identification with what the mind has seen
or felt or realised. But once you get an experience
from the heart, immediately you will feel your
oneness with it, and your joy will be lasting.
When you see a flower with your mind, you appreciate
and admire it. But when you see it with your heart,
immediately you feel that your heart is inside
the flower or that the flower is inside your heart.
So when you have an experience, if you are one
with the experience itself, then you will know
it is from the heart. But if you feel that the
experience is something that you are achieving
outside yourself, then it is from the mind.
What is the difference between going
high and going deep in meditation?
There is a great difference in the methods of
meditation, although ultimately height and depth
become one. When we want to go deep in meditation,
we have to start our journey from the spiritual
heart. We should feel that we are digging or travelling
very deep into our heart. We are travelling inward,
not backward or downward towards the feet. Below
the knees the plane of inconscience starts. If
we feel that we are going downward, then it is
not spiritual depth we are getting but only the
lower planes of consciousness. The spiritual heart
is infinitely vast, so there is no limit to how
deep we can go. We can never touch its boundaries,
because the spiritual heart embodies the vast
universe that we see, and at the same time it
is larger and vaster than the universe.
When we want to go high in meditation, then we
have to feel an upward direction in our meditation.
Our aspiration is climbing, climbing fearlessly
toward the Highest. We must pass through the thousand-petalled
lotus at the top of the head. Again, the distance
is infinitely vast. There is no end to our upward
journey because we are travelling in Infinity.
We are climbing toward the ever-transcending Beyond.
In terms of distance, upward and inward are both
infinite journeys toward one Goal, the Supreme.
We cannot go high by using the mind, however.
We must pass through the mind, beyond the mind,
and into the realm of the spiritual heart. The
domain of the spiritual heart is infinitely higher
and vaster than that of the highest mind. Far
beyond the mind is the domain of the heart. The
heart is boundless in every direction, so inside
the heart is the highest height as well as the
deepest depth.
The higher we can go, the deeper we can go. Again,
the deeper we can go, the higher we can go. It
works simultaneously. If we can meditate very
powerfully, then we are bound to feel that we
are going both very high and very deep. Height
and depth go together, but they work in two different
dimensions, so to speak. But if a person can go
very high in his meditation, then he also has
the capacity to go very deep.
Before we realise the Highest, we feel that there
is a difference between height and depth. When
we are climbing up we feel that we have reached
a certain height, and when we are diving deep
within, we feel that we have reached a certain
depth. But height and depth are all in the mental
consciousness. Once we go beyond the barrier of
the mind and enter into the Universal Consciousness,
we see everything as one and inseparable. At that
time Reality is singing and dancing within us,
and we become the Reality itself. It has no height,
no depth, no length. It is all one and at the
same time it is always transcending itself.
What will happen if I meditate on the navel centre?
At this point in your spiritual development, it
is not a good idea for you to meditate on the
navel centre. This is the centre of dynamism,
strength and power. If you misuse this dynamism,
it becomes brutal aggression. The navel centre
is also the emotional centre. With this emotion
you can expand yourself and become the Infinite.
But instead, if you do not have abundant purity
in your nature, you will become a victim to earthly
pleasure-life. You should meditate on the heart
centre to get peace, love and joy. When you have
these qualities, you will feel that peace itself
is power, love itself is power, joy itself is
power.
What is the relationship between the
third eye and the heart centre?
Let us say that the heart is consciousness and
the third eye is light, although there is no actual
difference between the two things. The third eye
has infinite light and at the same time it is
infinite light. The spiritual heart possesses
infinite consciousness and at the same time it
is infinite consciousness. But infinite light
and infinite consciousness are one and the same.
This moment the infinite light—which I am
calling the third eye—is a building, and
inside it the heart resides. But the next moment
the infinite consciousness— which I am calling
the heart—can become the building, and the
third eye will become the resident. They constantly
change, because they are not really separate,
Sometimes we see light before consciousness, while
other times we see consciousness before light.
The one which we see first, we feel is the source
of the other. But a time comes when we see that
light and consciousness are inseparable.
The heart usually embodies sweetness and love,
and the third eye embodies power and illumination.
But those who are very wise will feel that the
third eye is also the heart, for what else is
the heart except that which gives us satisfaction?
And what gives us satisfaction? Only light! So
if light from the third eye gives us satisfaction,
then naturally we are dealing with the heart's
quality. And what gives us the highest wisdom?
Wisdom comes only when we go deep inside the inmost
recesses of our heart, where Infinity, Eternity
and Immortality play. To possess Infinity as our
very own, to possess infinite light and bliss
eternally as our very own, is real wisdom. So
we can say that wisdom comes from the heart.
Is it desirable to try to open the
third eye in meditation?
The inner eye should be opened only when there
is inner purity and maturity, and when neither
the past nor the future will disturb you. Many
times the vessel is not ready, but by means of
tremendous determination a seeker does succeed
in opening the third eye. Then the result is most
discouraging and damaging. When you are not spiritually
mature, if you see with your third eye that your
mother is going to die tomorrow, then you will
die today with worry and anxiety. Or if you become
aware of some unfortunate incident that took place
in your past, you will feel extremely miserable
and you will not have the strength to continue
going forward.
There are people who have opened the centre between
the eyebrows before having opened their heart
centre and, by the Grace of the Supreme, have
not made serious mistakes in using this power.
But most of the time, unless and until the heart
centre is opened and the emotional part of one's
nature is totally purified, the seeker will fall
victim to merciless temptation if he opens the
third eye. He will try to see something inwardly
and immediately he will tell others, or he will
try to enter into somebody out of curiosity to
see what is happening in that person's nature.
There are a thousand and one things which can
eventually lead the seeker far, far away from
the path of spirituality.
For beginners especially, it is always advisable
to meditate on the heart centre. In fact, even
if you are advanced, you should meditate there,
because in the heart centre you get joy and become
part and parcel of whatever you are meditating
on. If you concentrate on the third eye, you may
not have the feeling of oneness. You may see light,
but you will feel that it is not yours; you will
think that perhaps it was not light at all but
just imagination or hallucination. Doubt may enter
into your mind. But when you use the heart, the
joy that you get you immediately feel is yours;
the peace that you feel is yours; anything that
you feel becomes yours. This is the heart's capacity
for oneness.
0 my heart, 0 heart of mine, you are my life-boat. You sail the uncharted seas of ignorance and reach the Golden Shore of the Beyond. 0 sweet, sweeter, sweetest heart of mine, you are not only God's. God also is yours.

